Thursday, 28 February 2013

In the learning of patience He leads us to peace

Lately the Lord has been teaching me about the value of patience and what takes place in the waiting for the desires to happen, what the Lord brings to light that is in my heart that he wants to heal me of.
There is so much teaching to be had when things don't happen as we think they should.  The matters of the heart that need exposing in order that we come into the truth of God.  So many things that we think we believe in, in our heads - but the reality is not quite there in our hearts and so in the patience and the waiting for things to happen the Lord, reveals these things to you because His heart for us is that we not be lacking anything. (James 1)

I feel like I have finally had some breakthrough in one particular area in this and how do I know that - because of the rest and peace that comes when finally I trust in the Lord and wait for him to do it.  Peace is a Kingdom reality and position and when I am not in peace on something then I find that in reality I am not trusting the Lord in some aspect of it.  And in his love and compassion towards us he keeps us in that place so that we come into the best he has for us.
I think I trust Him in a certain area and then He shows me another aspect of the same thing and I find there is still things that need changing in my mindset in order for the fullness that God wants for me and for those around me.

He is so patient with us it just blows me away.   Today I feel so blessed as the Lord has over the last couple of weeks showed me a desire in my heart I didn't know was there and in him showing me that he showed me that it was his desire too for me to have that desire, as He wants to give good gifts to his children because every good gift is from God.    And so now that gift has arrived and I sit in awe at the goodness of God.  But it was something two weeks ago I had no idea it was in my heart and in him revealing it, it showed me another system of thinking, a mentality in me that I have lived under which is not the truth of God.
Something so little and yet so big in me, but in His love for me and in his patience toward me, he leads me.
I read in Matt 6 in the whole part about not worrying this morning and about Solomon dressed in all his splendor and the verse is talking about the birds of the air etc and how valuable each thing is but that God looks after them and how much he too will look after us and yet we worry about these things.  As we seek His Kingdom and His righteousness all these things will be given to you as well.

So I want to encourage you this morning to allow the patience of God to be worked out in your life so that you come to a place of peace in whatever it is, to allow those hidden things to be revealed that are in your heart that you are not even aware, those hidden frustrations or questions but also those hidden desires and when we delight ourselves in him, he gives us the desires of our heart. (Psalm 37)

Monday, 25 February 2013

A couple of warnings to those in leadership/ministry.

Last night I had a dream and I want to share it with you.

In the first part of the dream I saw like a Parachute festival being organised and in the setting up of things different things were being put on the road and one of those was a tent that a baby was going to sleep in.  As it was being put up a couple of big trucks drove by and didn't see the tent.  It was alright at that point but then the truck drivers were talked too because if they drove by again there was going to be a baby sleeping in it and if they continued to drive the way they were, they would run it over and kill the baby.

Big trucks often represent powerful ministries and babies often represent new ministries.  And so I saw this first part of the dream as a warning to powerful ministries or ministries that are already going.  We are coming into a time where new ministries are coming out on the road and in this process please be careful not to run them over.  They are young and need to be protected and just like a baby if you ran over it, the same feeling of grief is there if you carry on the road you have been travelling without watching out for them and making way for them.

God want us all to be blessed so that we can be a blessing, so we need to protect those young new ministries getting on the road and make way for them and allow them to grow, encourage and teach them and those bigger ministries have loads of experience and knowledge that the younger ones coming onto the scene need, so share with them your knowledge and experience so that they don't run into the same pitfalls that you may have run into.  And like parachute festival there are thousands of people needed to help run parachute, all different areas needed, there is enough room for us all and we all have our part to play in order for it to run smoothly.

In the second part of the dream I saw the leader of this group of people at the festival who had people working for him and we were talking, he was the leader of a bunch of drivers.   He had a problem, he was going away and had to leave someone in charge and he had two men, one a young man who one of his customers wanted and really liked and the customer was one of influence and power but the worker was young and untrustworthy, while he had another man, who was I think of Indian decent, sitting waiting, but he was a man of integrity and character.  Unfortunately he chose the younger man against advice to do otherwise and he chose the younger worker that the customer had wanted, falling to pressure and gave notice to the Indian man of character.  In so doing his business never grew anything beyond where it was because he kept the younger man and in fact it got into trouble.

This second part of the dream I believe is a warning to pick people of integrity and character rather than the peoples choice, because in the long run you and your ministry will prosper, but if you choose people who are liked by people, young and charismatic but not people of good character then your ministry may suffer.  And young may not necessarily mean young in age but young in maturity.
The scripture from Prov 14:12 came to mind at the time "There is a way that seems right to a man but in the end leads to death." and as I looked it up I saw in Prov 14:11 "The house of the wicked will be destroyed but the tent of the upright will flourish".
Lets be a people of courage and pick people who are upright and of good character and not succumb to pressure of man and God will bless you and everything will flourish.

Sunday, 24 February 2013

Sat 9 March Worship with Hans Kraenzlin

Psalm 24
Swing wide the gates so the King of Glory may come in - Who is this King of Glory - the Lord Strong and Mighty in Battle.

We have opened up our gates - our home - so that the King of Glory may come in.

Saturday 9th March Lets worship and welcome the King of Glory!

We are blessed to have Hans Kraenzlin and his family from Tauranga join us to lead in worship again before he leaves to go overseas for a time and so we are having a pot luck dinner at our home from 6pm onwards.
Bring friends. Some are welcome to stay over communal style so let us know if you are interested to do that if you are from out of town.

So bring plenty of food and drink not just for dinner but for the evening as I don't think it will be short :)
Bring bedding if you need to:
Come with open hearts for the Lord!

Its time to let go of the bank and go with the river wherever it goes

A few years ago when we were working on the Tibetan Plateau the Lord was wanting to take us to another level in Him and he gave us this picture of the river and being so washed away by the river that we could no longer hold onto the bank, the waters edge.

As we prayed for more of the Glory of the Lord, this became the position that we had to take, to let go of the things that we held on to, those things that were like safety to us, that were familiar,  that gave stability and seemingly direction and to allow God to take us where he wanted to take us, no matter where it led us knowing that he had good plans for us.  To be so washed away in His presence and in His leading, no matter what it looked like or where it lead, to be completely surrendered trusting in Him.

In Ezekiel 47 "it talks about the river flowing from the Temple.  Verse 3...the man...then led me through water that was ankle deep.  He measured off another thousand cubits and led me through water that was knee deep.  He measured of another thousand and led me through water that was up to the waist.  He measured off another thousand, but it was a river that I could not cross, because the water had risen and was deep enough to swim in - a river that no one could cross....." (Can read all of Ezek 47:1-12, its all great and encouraging).

Yesterday in church I saw the river flowing and it was like it was deep flowing water and recently the Lord has given me other pictures of the river and the depth of the river and I saw we were on a road but the river had risen that we could no longer see the road anymore as the river covered it.

This excites me as a body of believers because in Eze 47:9 "so where the river flows everything will live".  Life is here, things are growing again, where it had once been a dry place it is now a place where the river is flowing.

But in this position of the water rising and the river flowing, the Spirit being released where it brings life everywhere it goes, sometimes we can no longer see the path.  We can no longer hold on to those things that are a form of security to us.  It is unfamiliar and we don't know where it will lead us.  It can be scary in one sense but exciting in another.
We were talking with someone yesterday and we said that if we realised the goodness of God and all that can be found in God we would happily let go of those things that we hold on to, but for many of us we haven't had a revelation to that level yet.  And we pray that the Lord would give you a revelation of the goodness of God that will enable you to let go and surrender completely to Him and his leading. In Jim and I surrendering those things by faith that we held onto ,we have seen and learnt so much more than we could dream of and now have a little understanding into the depth of God's goodness in way that we are learning that is okay to trust him and let go of the bank knowing that he has good things for us.
So I want to encourage you not to be afraid in letting go of those things that you hold onto, to allow God to show you those things that are like security blankets to you and for his gentle encouragement and love to come into those places enabling you to let go and let him take you where he wants you to go.

John 7:38 "Whoever believes in me as the scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him.  By this he meant the Spirit whom those who believed in him were later to receive."
Because we have the Spirit, we too have those streams of living water flowing from within us that brings life wherever it goes.

Friday, 22 February 2013

It's time to sing again

This past week the Lord has been speaking out of Philippians 3 and there are a few things I believe he wants to share.

Firstly: its time to sing/speak again.  Things have hurt people in the past and because of the hurt it has 'shut' their voice down.  It is not a place of denying what has happened but it is a time to forgive and to not allow the enemy a stronghold and to step into all that the Lord has put on our lives and to sing and speak with the voice he has given us.
Pray and bless those who it may seem as if they persecuted you.  In releasing forgiveness, blessing and prayer over them, we are asking the Lord to bring them into the fullness of him which in turns shifts things in their world and in your own.   The Lord has called us as Christians to a ministry of reconciliation and in praying for those who have hurt us, He will heal our hearts toward that situation whatever it may be and help us step forward into the new things he has for you.

Secondly: "Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead....."
In moving forward we cannot keep turning back and going over old things.  Sometimes we will find in our situation we are not moving forward and it is often in that time that we go back over the old path to see where we went wrong.   The past is the past and we are called to live in today and press on to what is ahead.  If we continue to go over the past, things will come up that actually weren't there before and that is when we come into a place of trouble.
In the place you are in, if you can't see a way forward wait until the Lord reveals it and then you move forward.  v16 "Only let us live up to what we have already attained."

Many blessings as you move forward into all that God has for you and as you wait for Him to show you the next steps.

Monday, 11 February 2013

Dry and weather worn or re-oiled, deep & beautiful?

Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!  Rev 19:9

Last night I had a dream and I saw two wedding parties both celebrating weddings down by the lake and then I saw one wedding party go off and get their food and the other wedding party were asleep resting down by the lake but they were not invited to go and get food yet.
There was this sense that they would get food later but this verse kept coming to me about those being invited to the wedding supper and so I wonder if there is a bit of a call that we not be found asleep when the bride groom comes.   (Matt 25: 1-13 The Parable of the Ten Virgins - read it if you don't know it).

I was yesterday re-oiling some outside furniture with linseed oil and I realised how badly it needed it and how dry and weather worn it had got over the 3 years in which I hadn't done it and yet it was not a big job, in fact really easy and quick and so I made a mental note to do it again next year so it didn't get this bad again.
Sometimes we can get a little dry and weather worn in our walk with the Lord but we need re-oiling every so often so that we can once again be that beautiful vessel we were meant to be and not the dry weather worn one we can be at times.  We cannot rely on others to give us their oil but we need to learn to get the oil for ourselves and it may not be the big job you are expecting, in fact it may be a simple quick thing that encourages you to go again like my re-oiling of the furniture, it wasn't the big job I expected.

 Rev 19:6  Then I heard what sounded like a great multitude, like the roar of rushing waters and like loud pearls of thunder, shouting:
"Hallelujah!  For our Lord God Almighty reigns.  Let us rejoice and be glad and give him glory!  For the wedding of the Lamb has come and his bride has made herself ready.  Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear." (Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the saints.) Then the angel said to me, "Write:  'Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!" And he added, "These are the true words of God."  At this I fell at his feet to worship him.  But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus.  Worship God!  For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."

Saturday, 9 February 2013

A caution to the racers

This morning I saw a picture of a new mail delivery vehicle it was blue and it was full of youth.  I was driving along the road but in their excitement to beat me to the end of the road they cut corners on the inside like on a racetrack.  On the straight there was this fun race spuring each other on but on the corner they cut it hoping to race ahead.

My caution to the youth, in the excitement and joy of delivering the heavenly mail (blue signifies the heavenly/spiritual) things to people e.g. words of knowledge, prophecy, etc. sometimes its wise not to cut corners trying to race ahead of others because that is where accidents can happen.  It is good to spur one another on in the things of God, but where there is a turn in the road, make sure you can see clearly ahead of you otherwise keep to the road even though it may take a second or two longer, as you will find it is safer and not cause accidents or harm people in the process.

So for example if you have a word for someone but you don't have it all, only give what you have and don't give your added interpretation onto it as you can alter and change what God intends.  You can only give what you have and you will often find that others will have something else that will add to what you have, bringing a complete picture to the person.  You don't have to have everything, allow God to use others around you to bring the complete thing.

Vision for the Puketaha Hall Gatherings

Vision for the Puketaha Hall Gatherings

      Family Gatherings –

The new but old interpretation of Church?

Last night I had a dream and in this dream I saw what I believed the Lord is saying for the gatherings on the Wednesday nights.

I saw a motel room and as we were preparing one of our friends came in and had a bath and she was naked but happily having a bath in front of me.  Then one by one, different people came in, family came in and began gathering.  My sister came in carrying a brand new baby, which we were all so excited about because it was brand new.  Others came and gathered that we had not expected and hadn’t seen for a while and we were so thrilled to see them. The youth had been at something else but were still here and they came.

So I believe the gatherings at Puketaha hall will be like going to a motel for a family gathering where you all come from different places and join for an event.
A motel is a temporary place and as I looked in my dream interpretation book it states a motel as:

A place of encounter
A place of discovery
A place of refreshment and rest

But as I reflect on the person naked in a bath, it will be a place where we can be vulnerable and openly cleanse ourselves in front of others.

It will be a place where we can all oogle and enjoy new babies in the spirit, no matter what they are and wonder how they will grow up, but allow them the freedom to learn.

It will be a place where people will come from afar when they are in town.
It will be a place where you don’t know who will turn up and when but totally thrilled when they do.

It will be a place where Jim and I as parents of this gathering will look about us with tears in our eyes as we watch the family grow and come and go.
Isaiah 60:4 Life up your eyes and look about you: yours sons come from afar and your daughters are carried on the arm.  Then you will look and be radiant, your heart will throb and swell with joy;

Wednesday, 6 February 2013

Our latest newsletter

Dear friends and partners,.

Well the new year has begun and with it the thoughts and plans about what the Lord is asking of us this coming year.

Some things that are becoming very clear to us is that he is 'settling' us down a bit and it is NZ's time and that we are called to build the church here in New Zealand at the moment yet still believe there will be some trips overseas somewhere along the line.  How building the church here in New Zealand looks is the question we are asking the Lord to which we still wait and ask you to pray with us to see God's blueprint for how that is to be in this season.  It is happening with the various people that the Lord is bringing to us, but we believe he is saying perhaps in a more concrete way?  

As mentioned last year we believed he was saying to prepare for expansion and so we stepped into the Resource Room beginning and it becoming equipped with CD's DVD's, books etc that people can borrow so please feel free to come and peruse what is here.  Also if you have books etc that you feel would like to add to this, we would value your gifts. 
And then the "Prayer Room" which is now established and will begin again for those who are interested on the 20th of February at our home.  This is a time of prayer, worship, soaking and ministry.

But the next step we are stepping out in is shifting the Wednesday night meeting that has been happening in our home to Puketaha Hall which is just up the road from us on Puketaha Road, next to the Primary school and meeting there on a now weekly basis.  We see this meeting not as a 'church' but more a 'resourcing and equipping centre'.   A place where the body of Christ is released in their giftings to bring revival in this nation.
We are a little apprehensive in this move as we are loving what God is doing in our home and we are not wanting to see this change, but the question continually on our minds is our lack of toilets and facilities as this grows as we believe it will, and so the hall is already equipped with all of this.  So please pray for us as this transition happens on the 13th of February.  

We are really excited about what we believe the Lord is going to do this year, a year of harvest, a year of change, of stepping into new things and wondering how on earth we got there and year of growing in areas that we have not moved in before, but we would ask for your prayer in all of this.

Please pray for us in the area of finances as this continues to be a challenge as missionaries in your own home town it is not valued the same as being missionaries overseas, which people readily support and so we need to see a breakthrough in the whole release of finances.  Jim and I are both currently looking and applying for various jobs but believe that we are called full time to building the church, but without finances coming in we cannot do this and what solider serves on the battlefield at his own expense.  It was really funny the other day after returning from a ministry trip up the Far North and some people said to us that we are the only people they know that pay to minister and this stopped us in our tracks as this is exactly what we do, not to boast but to share with you our struggle and the need to see a breakthrough because who of you works and pays out of your own pocket to work, instead you work expecting to be paid so that you can live,  otherwise why work?  We are receiving some support coming in but not enough to cover any of our own personal expenses.  So if you believe this is something that God is speaking to you about, if this is something you believe that we are called full time to work for the house of God, no matter where that is, what that looks like, in a church or out of a church, as we are not called to one place or one church, but to the body of Christ, then please commit to sowing into us and the ministry that we carry and you can do that by setting up an automatic payment to Glory Release Ministries bank account 060369 0123246-00.  Please put your details so we can send you a tax receipt for donations at the end of the financial year.

So for your calendars at this stage:

13th February Wednesdays begin at Puketaha Hall - Nicky Moran & Band will be leading us in worship that week.  Joshua Wong the following week which is a young guy from Life Church so looking forward to that.  We will have a variety of people this year leading worship so looking forward to the variety the Lord will bring.  Its is also Jims birthday so a time of celebration all round.  Which I find really interesting as we finished last year on my birthday on a Wednesday, begin this year on Jims birthday being a Wednesday and also feel there is a change more with Jim leading this year more than me, so the finishing of one season and moving into the next. 

20/21st February Wednesday & Thursday morning Prayer Room open from 10am until 1pm

May the Lord richly bless you this coming year and please don't forget to check out our website/facebook which will keep you updated on current events and happenings.  
Those addresses are:   and Glory Release Ministries on Facebook

With love and thanks for all your prayers and support and we look forward to seeing some of you at the Wednesday gatherings.

Jim & Sarah Chamberlin

Tuesday, 5 February 2013

Its upside down but right way up.???

I am excited.
A few weeks ago I had this picture where I saw houses being turned upside-down and being rebuilt from the inside, but everything inside the house was upside-down.

This may not sound very encouraging but I was greatly encouraged because it was a good thing.  Although things seemed upside down it was actually the right way up.  And as I write this I remember something Bill Johnson talked about at one of the Manifest Presence conferences a couple of years ago and correct order of apostolic government and how it was a different model than that of the world where things are dominated from the top down, but instead this model was a model of servanthood serving, an upside-down model compared to that of the world.  And like Jesus rode a donkey and yet He was king, not lording over people as the world does, but coming from a position of humility and love for others.  And so this excites me that 'the church' as a whole and as individuals is coming into, I believe the correct order of Gods governmental plan of servanthood and a love that lays down its life for another in order to see others fly, no matter what the cost to ourselves, because of His great love for us.  And because of this, we are going to see His Kingdom manifest here on Earth as it is in heaven, His Kingdom of righteousness, peace and joy.

I know though when things are turned upside down we don't know where we are at or what we are doing and in this place of change we need to keep our eyes on Jesus and he will guide us through it.  A few years ago I had this picture and it was of going through a mine field but I was blind, but there was someone there directing me.   I had to listen to the voice in order to get through without being harmed.  And I believe this is what it may feel like for some that you that you feel like you are going through a bit of a mine field where you are unsure of your steps, but not to be concerned about that because he is  navigating you through it as you listen out to the voice of the Holy Spirit, even though you can't see where you are going, and he will lead you through into wide open spaces.

There are things we need to learn and one of those things in my picture was listening to the voice of the Holy Spirit.  Through this time of change there are things God wants to teach us and retrain us in areas whatever those areas we may be and for each one of us they will be different, but his desire is that we would be a bride that is fully equipped not lacking anything so that we are equipped for every good work as it says in James.  James 1:2  "Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trails of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.  Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything."

I believe the Lord has some amazing stuff for us as his bride like never before and I am excited so in this process of things feeling like they are perhaps are upside down, be encouraged that Gods Kingdom is being established on the Earth.

Sunday, 3 February 2013

Its time to praise him!

Psalm 150
Praise the Lord.
Praise God in his sanctuary;
Praise him in his mighty heavens.
Praise him for his acts of power;
Praise him for his surpassing greatness.
Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet,
Praise him with the harp and lyre,
Praise him with tambourine and dancing;
Praise him with the strings and flute,
Praise him with the clash of cymbals,
Praise him with resounding cymbals.
Let everything that has breath praise the Lord.
Praise the Lord.

What is it that we have to be contained in our faith?  When King David danced in the street with everything he had in public, his wife watched and she despised him in her heart and she was barren from that time forth. With everything that has breath praise the Lord!  Oh imagine what that would look like if we with everything we had within us, praised the Lord like David, not caring what other people thought because of his passionate thanksgiving for all that the Lord had done.

One despised David but before the slave girls David was held in high honour.  We have a choice when we watch people passionately outpouring their love toward God, we can despise them and mock them for their outpouring of love or we can hold them in high honour and desire to be like them, free to worship God with everything within us.

I have never seen anything so beautiful before the Lord as people intimately dancing before their Lord and for their Lord, abandoned, set apart for their lover.

Whose house are we building?

This morning I was reading in 2 Samuel 7 and it is where David’s heart is to build a place for the ark of God to rest in rather than a tent.  “Here I am, living in a palace of cedar, while the ark of God remains in a tent”.  He recognises something that is not right and sets about to put God in his proper place of honour.

A few years ago we were managing a sheep and beef farm and the Lord spoke to us out of the book of Haggai 1, verse 4 “Is it a time for you yourselves to be living in your panelled houses, while this house remains a ruin.”  This scripture changed the complete direction of where we were heading. 

We were Christians, we were going to church, fully involved in Church, leading a cell group, on the church council, leading worship, doing Sunday School etc.  at the time but then God challenged us with the book of Haggai and we realised that we were in fact building our own house even though we were doing God things as well.  Our heart was to make money so that we could have enough to buy our own farm and work it while we were young.  And then the Lord showed us, why did we have to own our own farm, we were caretakers of everything he gave us so why did we need to have our own farm, why not be content with managing?

And so step by step the Lord has led us away from farming and into building his house, the church, but first we needed a radical wake up call as to the direction we were heading.  After surrendering our plans and purposes to the Lords and his desires for our lives rather than our own, we have had such a journey that we would not have changed.  We did not even realise the direction we were heading it was so ingrained in us from childhood that this was what you did.  But in allowing God to show us our hearts at the core and be changed by it, we have had such a fulfilled life and the promises of God are way more than we can imagine.

In surrendering not only our desires for faming but also our plans towards our child and the direction of her life, I was blessed & encouraged too this morning in 2 Sam 7 – because David set about to build and honour the Lord and make His name great, God promised to make David’s name great, but not only that he promises that his children will succeed him and that God would establish his kingdom.  “When your days are over and you rest with your fathers, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, who will come from your own body, and I will establish his kingdom”.   I realise this promise is for David but I too believe that because I am building the house of the Lord and his covenant with me, that our daughter has an inheritance that the Lord will give her, not perhaps as the world sees an inheritance, but a spiritual inheritance that will far outweigh anything of the earth and that encouraged me greatly that the Lord will take care of her and his hand will be upon her.

Friday, 1 February 2013

The beauty in diversity.

A few years ago we lived in China and worked with about eight different cultures as part of our team.  We were the only kiwis.  Boy did we learn alot about how we perceive things and how we judge others, and what is our cultural norms and standard, our worldview that we carried without even realising it that we expected others to be the same. It opened my eyes to the diversity of God's creation and the beauty that was there when we learnt to accept each other and the way we all worked, the different mindsets and beliefs that challenged my own but opened my eyes to see things different, the different ways of honour or lack of honour, all sorts of things.  It has brought a desire to understand why people think the way they think, why they do what they do, why they believe what they believe.  It has brought depth to me as a person and the ability to listen and to love and to want what the other person has, because I need it in my life to make me who I am.

Yesterday I was talking to someone about a book and a concept within the book and based on something she heard me say, it straight away stopped her from reading the book and in fact from even looking at the book, because of one comment she heard and her belief system within her to the comment, in so doing has missed out on a wonderful revelation, I believe, from the Lord.

Another time a quest speaker was coming to our church and because of what people posted about him on the internet, many people decided not to go.  We questioned about going but decided we would go and listen and discern for ourselves.  I am glad we did because he has turned out to be the most influential and theologically correct speaker I have heard (in my opinion), but I nearly didn't go because of someone else's comments about him and because of what other people were doing.

We can miss out on so much when we look from our point of view and the perceptions that we have of how things should be done that we only see from narrowed glasses/vision.  I want to encourage you today to be willing to listen and to learn from other people.  Take the time to get to know people that are not the same as you, who look at things differently than you, who perhaps are of a different age group or standing in society than you, a different theological point of view from you and be open to learning which will open you up to a wider perspective on life and on how God loves his people in all its diversity.